Friends of Marymoor Park

November 19th, 2008 Meeting Summary

-- see also the October 22, 2008 meeting summary

  1. In Attendance:    Herb Bone, Marymoor R/C Club; Barbara Dickson, neighbor; Greg Helland, SODA, FOMP President; Michael Hobbs, Eastside Audubon, FOMP Secretary; Norah Gaynor, King County Parks;  Christina Merten, Marymoor Community Gardeners Association; Brian Vanderstoop, Marymoor Velodrome Association; Kathleen and Terry Brady, King County Parks.
  2. CIP/Project Updates
    • Marymoor Connector Trail:  Paving done, crosswalks, bollard installation in progress.  Expansion to East Lake Sammamish Trail in permitting.  Final walkthrough, December 3.

      Terry presented proposals for enhancements to landscaping along the trail.  The plantings that were part of the trail construction are very small shrubs lining the trail in a few places.  Terry proposes a "linear treescape".  He proposes (west-to-east) California Incense Cedars alternating with Kwansan Flowering Cherries, set back 12 feet from the trail, 30 feet apart;  Liquidamber styriciflora (which he says provide very nice fall color); Western Red Cedar along the north edge of the trail through the wetland area; Sunset Red Maples; London Plane Trees; more Sunset Red Maples on the north side of the trail (opposite existing maples along the road).  Starting at the model airplane field, California Incense Cedar; California Wax Myrtle; Western Red Cedar in the wetland area (with no trees once the boardwalk begins).

      Approximately 380 trees involved.  Larger trees would be used (6' to 8' for conifers).

      He also proposes using "Treegator" waterbags on the deciduous trees to facilitate time-released watering.

      Michael suggested Oregon Ash in some of the wetland areas where Western Red Cedar had been proposed.  He also asked for more natives, as trees like California Incense Cedar seem to attract very, very few birds.

      Terry suggested that attracting birds is not an appropriate goal for this project.

      Barbara suggested that the meadow area east of the model airplane field should remain meadowy, rather than having cedars planted along that section of trail.  Michael agreed, wanting to preserve the meadowy nature of the area.  Red-tailed Hawks and other meadow-loving birds use the area as a meadow.  Hawk hunting could be impinged-upon by new trees along that section of the trail.  Herb concurred as well, from the perspective of the model airplane fliers.  Concerns were raised that trees could cause problems for slightly errant airplanes, as the flight zone comes very close to the trail in that area.  Others expressed a desire to maintain the views to the south.  Greg suggested trees only on the north side of the trail, and perhaps using clumps of trees spaced further apart.  Terry asked Michael to examine the area and get back to him.

      More shrubs (Red-osier Dogwood?) were also suggested.

      So, Terry's goals were to provide more trees, to demarcate the trail (i.e. protect against cross-trail activities), provide shade and cover, hide unattractive features.  Other considerations raised at the meeting included preserving the meadow for hawk foraging, preserving views, choosing tree species that might be beneficial to birds.

      Norah mentioned that until trees are established, rocks will be placed along the trail to keep cars off.

    • Ballfields 1&2 Multi-use Project:  Turf going in now, though work is weather dependent.  New lights are mostly up.  Project is slightly behind schedule, but still planned for the end of the year.
    • Pet Garden:  Fence/gates ordered - still awaiting delivery.

    • BirdLoop:  Boardwalk extension work delayed until spring by high water.  (Work was suspended because the wrong grating was originally delivered).

    • Clise Mansion Electrical: Fixtures installed.  Final details are being completed.

    • East Lake Sammamish Trail:  They are scheduled to issue final EIS December '08 for Redmond section.  Design is progressing - For more information about this project, see:
  3. Marymoor Map:  Matt's final invoice exceeds the expenditures previously authorized by FOMP by $1035.   Greg has not received a change-order request to justify the additional expenses.

    King County is trying to find money to print 10,000 copies; they hope to have it printed by the end of 2008.

    Greg would like to see a "final" map before agreeing on the additional payment.

  4. Event/Activity Updates:
    • Returning events for 2009:
      • Evergreen Gala - March
      • Tour de Cure - May
      • Run with the Cops - June
      • Flying Wheels - June
      • Superjock n Jill - Labor Day
      • Cyclocross - September
      • Crossfit Challenge - July
      • Large co. picnic (500) - July

  5. Other: Michael asked if there could be a solution to the flooding that affects the entry to the velodrome.  This has been discussed in the past.  It is a problem that will be dealt with sometime.

Next meeting, Wednesday, January 28, 2008, CLISE MANSION.

These notes were made by Michael Hobbs, and they do not constitute an official record of the meeting.  They may have inaccuracies and omissions.  If anyone has any complaints about the content of these notes, they should direct them to Michael Hobbs at, and he will endeavor to correct them.


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